The Dissemination of Thought

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Diamond rings and perplexing things

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There is no prepared TDoT post today per se, it’s more of an impromptu reaction to a conversation I overhead on the bus this morning between a woman who became engaged overnight, and a friend of hers who wasn’t yet aware of the situation. Perhaps the bride to be is yet to update her relationship status on Facebook.

For ease of identification, we will call the one with the ring Miss Engagee. Her ashen-haired, nodding sidekick is Enabling Friend.

If it wasn’t already hard enough for guys to figure out what the hell women want, hearing the following exchange amidst a flurry of squeals and animated hand gestures raised the bar another four inches.

Enabling Friend: “Oh babe, you must be so excited!”
Miss Engagee: “I was thinking about breaking up with him, but this ring is beautiful.”
Enabling Friend: “You’d probably have to give it back if you split.”

With that sort of logic, what chance do we have?

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Written by disseminatedthought

December 6, 2011 at 07:59

29 Responses

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  1. I feel sorry for the guy big time. You watch she will stick with him, drain him for everything and then dump him. You should have planted a tracking device and kept an up to date blog on this alone lol. Another well written article, short and sweet.

    cjkeane86

    December 6, 2011 at 08:03

  2. Ah, don’t make the mistake of thinking all women are the same simply because of a stupid conversation you heard. All women are not the same, just as all men are not the same.

    You don’t need to figure out what women want. You just need to ask the woman you like what she wants.

    newswithnipples

    December 6, 2011 at 08:04

    • I’d never considered just asking them what they wanted. Wise counsel indeed, especially for this time on a Tuesday morning.

      Do women get as confused about us as we do about them?

      As always, thank you for your feedback.

      disseminatedthought

      December 6, 2011 at 09:01

      • I don’t know. No one I know gets confused about men, but that’s because we don’t buy into the idea that they’re all the same. Popular culture has a lot to answer for, eh?

        newswithnipples

        December 6, 2011 at 09:58

      • That it does. Damn you, romantic comedy. The notion that over six billion people could all have the same thoughts, needs and desires based on their sex is a little disconcerting.

        disseminatedthought

        December 6, 2011 at 10:32

  3. I don’t understand how Miss Engagee could deem it morally acceptable to marry someone (I mean, go through a ceremony that is fundamentally based around the love and devotion of each partner towards the other) purely due to the apparent beauty of the engagement ring which is supposed to symbolise love (and ownership, but that’s somewhat archaic). How disgustingly shallow. This is why I hate people.

    olletron

    December 6, 2011 at 20:57

    • I’ve never understood the whole engagement ring concept myself. I’m happy for someone to tell me that I’m wrong and explain the history behind it, but as far as I can see, it’s – as you have alluded to – an archaic sign to the world that a woman is property, and has been exchanged for a clichéd proposal and round cut diamond.

      Thanks for your input to the discussion, and welcome to The Dissemination of Thought.

      disseminatedthought

      December 6, 2011 at 21:22

      • Oh, oh. I got this one. Engagement rings emerged as collateral. Back in the day, a woman wasn’t considered marriageable unless she was a virgin. Still, many gave it up to their fiances. If the fiance broke the engagement, they were considered “ruined women” and unlikely to find anyone else to marry them. During this time, their opportunities for employment also were limited. An expensive ring — the standard cost was a few months’ salary — gave them something they could sell to support themselves if they needed to. Of course, that’s not very romantic, so clever marketers emphasized the diamond’s hardy nature as a symbol of eternal love.

        Carrie

        December 9, 2011 at 01:04

      • Thanks for explaining it so succinctly, it’s greatly appreciated. Ruined because one wasn’t a virgin? As far as I’m aware, a roll in the hay doesn’t spoil a woman for all time – we aren’t talking about sushi that’s been sitting in the sun all day. It’s difficult to comprehend how society justified these notions for so long in bygone eras. Religion has a lot to answer for.

        disseminatedthought

        December 9, 2011 at 05:43

  4. Maybe boyfriend of Miss Engagee should marry Enabling Friend, from the brief conversation, she appears to have some ethics.

    reflexio.com

    December 6, 2011 at 23:07

    • Whether of not Miss Engagee is totally devoid of a moral compass remains to be seen. Maybe she will end up calling the engagement off. Perhaps she will decide that she should have ended the relationship after all, but will still get married to see how things turn out. My confusion yesterday centered around her acceptance of the ring: if she really was contemplating an end to the relationship, why didn’t she ask for more time to consider the proposal?

      Thank you for commenting, and welcome to The Dissemination of Thought.

      disseminatedthought

      December 7, 2011 at 05:31

  5. I wouldn’t worry your pretty little head. I once heard a guy say, “Not bad for my first wife…” about a girl he JUST proposed to. I am kind of glad people are so perplex, chaotic, and confusing. If not I’d be bored and we’d have to try harder to come up with things to write about…

    thefutureofhope

    December 7, 2011 at 00:03

  6. What do women want? This one wants a sandwich.

    Carrie

    December 7, 2011 at 06:17

    • That seems easy enough to accommodate. What sort of sandwich are we talking about?

      Welcome to TDoT Carrie, and thank you for your input.

      disseminatedthought

      December 7, 2011 at 06:35

      • Preferably something mayo-laden and greasy.

        Carrie

        December 7, 2011 at 07:56

  7. All I can do is say, I’m sorry. Jackassery is equally distributed between the male and female of the species. You do have to wonder about the guy though. Does he really not have a clue? Take into account that he asked this paradigm of a souless, space cadet to marry him. Why? Perhaps they were meant for each other. You never know.

    Miss Demure Restraint

    December 7, 2011 at 07:12

    • I have no idea. Perhaps he thinks that her physical attributes and the associated bragging to his friends that “he scored a hot wife” offset having to constantly wonder how long she’s going to hang around for once they are married. I guess there is a chance he’s blissfully unaware that Miss Engagee was considering absconding.

      disseminatedthought

      December 7, 2011 at 07:22

  8. You have a BlackBerry Bold 9700? Wow, wanna get hitched? 😉

    Trina

    December 7, 2011 at 15:37

    • I’ll tentatively say yes, but I was thinking about asking that woman over there with the Torch 9860.

      Welcome to the chaos.

      disseminatedthought

      December 7, 2011 at 15:50

  9. More reasons to dislike the female gender?

    ellenesce

    December 8, 2011 at 14:31

    • I don’t think it’s a matter of liking or disliking the opposite gender. I think it just proves that both guys and girls have the capacity – at least at face value – to be incredibly materialistic and prone to errors of judgement when shiny things – be they literal or metaphorical – are involved.

      Thanks for your input into the discussion, and welcome to TDoT. Feel free to take a pair of complimentary slippers.

      disseminatedthought

      December 8, 2011 at 14:37

      • >< I had typed more than that but I see that my phone cut it off before loading. It was not a serious question nor rhetorical statement, more a comment of tone.

        I have known women to do such, and keep the ring. It really does not make sense how they could accept such a heartfelt gift, offer, desire to be life partners with them… only to wonder how they will end it and keep the prize.

        Materialism never fails to surprise, I think.

        ellenesce

        December 8, 2011 at 18:32

      • Mobile technology: you have to love it.

        disseminatedthought

        December 8, 2011 at 18:35

  10. That is amazing!

    Adrienne schmadrienne

    December 13, 2011 at 01:54

  11. Just for the record, I’m not one of those girls.

    leeschmidt

    February 6, 2012 at 21:40

    • It has been noted for the record.

      I’d love to be able to fast forward 12 months to see whether Miss Engagee was still wearing the ring.

      disseminatedthought

      February 7, 2012 at 21:20


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